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which had been part of the Italian air—forces a few days previ- ously were sent under Italian oflicers to aid the rebels was estab- lished when one of these planes was forced down in French Morocco. On August 14, Sir Percival Phillips, correspondent of The London Daily Telegraph, revealed that Franco has 20 Junker transport planes, 5 German pursuit planes and 7 Caproni planes, and that 60 Germans and 12 Italians were in Seville to fly bombers and train pilots for the Fascists. Just how much help the rebels secured in this way is impossible to check, but we know it is a good deal.
DR. WARD: Have any of you personally seen these things?
LA PASSIONARIA: I went into a German airplane that was caught between the lines recently. They tried to claim that it was a passenger airplane. But I tried to sit down and found no place for passengers. There was only place for bombs. It was a recent model. . . . Then there are the recent Italian planes landed at Vigo, identified by British sailors.
SICHES: Many German aviators are caught. Many bombs are found of German make.
LA PASSIONARIA: Yes, yes, in Etremadura a week ago a plane made a forced landing and when the peasants went to take it the pilot committed suicide. Papers on his body showed that he was an Italian with a three-year contract with the rebels. Then I saw in the Home Office a telegram from Malaga which told of a ship going up-river from Cadiz to Seville, loaded with bombs and airplane parts, under the custody of 50 German officers who remained in Seville.
DR. WARD: Have you any proof of German or Italian aid for the rebels since the agreement for non-intervention was signed?
DOMINGO: It is not necessary. According to international law when they signed that agreement, they should have notified by radio their ships carrying materials of war and recalled them. But after the agreement was signed airplanes landed at Vigo from Italy, and the excuse was that they had been on the sea when the agreement became effective. Portugal still sides openly with the rebels, recognizes their visas, boycotts our ambassador and sends refugees back to be shot.
Neutrality and Spanish Situation
DR. WARD: What do you think of the policy of neutrality which France and England have promoted?
LA PASSIONARIA: We find it hard to understand how the